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Two items from today's news:

From CNN: "The death toll from the September 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center has been revised down to 3,050, the New York Office of Emergency Management said Saturday. "
Source(at bottom of page)

From CommonDreams: "More than 3,500 civilians have been killed in Afghanistan by U.S. bombs, according to a study to be released December 10 by Marc W. Herold, Professor of Economics, International Relations, and Women's Studies at the University of New Hampshire. "
Source

So, apparently, we've killed more innocent civilians in a nation with less than 1/10th the population of the USA than the terrorists killed on 11 September.

Do we get to declare victory now?

Will I be forgiven if I decline to wave a flag and shout "USA! USA!" in celebration of this news?

Re: Quotes On Long Lasting War Plan

Date: 2001-12-10 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holywar.livejournal.com
"How Long Is The War Expected To Last?"

You know, one thing that I've been wondering about that I haven't heard explicity spelled out is what is meant by "War on Terrorism". Right now, obviously, it's war in the traditional sense of the word. But once we finish up what we're doing in Afghanistan, is it going to stay in its same form, or will the "War on Terrorism" become like the "War on Drugs"? Of course, we all know how well the War on Drugs is going...

"Rumsfield...refusing to rule out use of nukes"

Now that one I've GOT to see. There was an article on one of the news sites a few weeks ago where a Senator was suggesting tactical nukes for the caves in Afghanistan (I can try and find it again if you haven't seen it), but I hadn't seen Rumsfeld's statement. It was probably along the same lines, but I'd still like to see it.

Thanks for the references. Should be some interesting reading.

Re: Quotes On Long Lasting War Plan

Date: 2001-12-11 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infrogmation.livejournal.com
""Rumsfield...refusing to rule out use of nukes"
Now that one I've GOT to see.
"

Sure. And a couple others too:


Nukes?

Thomas Woodrow of the Defense Intelligence Agency, said it was "Time to use the nuclear option." (Washington Times, 14 Sept)

Two days later Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfield refused to rule out
use of nukes in an interview with Sam Donldson of ABC :
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/t09162001_t0916sd.html


18 Oct: Rep. Buyer Suggests Limited Nuclear Retaliation
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/wrtv/20011018/lo/929540_1.html

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