"Don't forget the other 300 or so people killed on September 11."
I presume you're talking about the dead in the Pentagon? Fine, add them to the list too.
Many people who had nothing to do with creating the situation have tragically been killed in the USA and Afganistan.
"And I guess we're not counting the 17 sailors on the Cole, or the 200+ people killed in Kenya and Tanzania, or the 19 killed in Saudi Arabia in the AF housing complex, all of which are convincingly listed on Al Qaeda's curriculum vitae."
Shall we add those killed by the missle attacks on Afganistan and Sudan during the Clinton administration? How far back do you want to go?
If you're trying work out some math where the Middle-Eastern terrorists killed more innocent civilians in the USA than the USA government killed in the Middle East, I honestly don't think you'll have much luck.
As I've said before (http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=10477076&thread=12820758#t12820758), don't mistake this for any allegation that the USA's motives are as evil as the terrorists. No sir. I just find reprehensible any use of tactics that accepts mass killing of innocent bystanders. And when people try to argue that it's evil when someone else does it but okay when we do, it often looks to me like awkward contorted attempts at rationalization.
"As for the commondreams source, why no mention of the rather unrigorous method of counting the allegedly dead in Afghanistan, as described in an a.r.k thread?"
If you have better figures or what you concider a good source conflicting with the above figures, feel free to present them.
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Re: Take a number
Date: 2001-12-31 10:14 am (UTC)I presume you're talking about the dead in the Pentagon? Fine, add them to the list too.
Many people who had nothing to do with creating the situation have tragically been killed in the USA and Afganistan.
"And I guess we're not counting the 17 sailors on the Cole, or the 200+ people killed in Kenya and Tanzania, or the 19 killed in Saudi Arabia in the AF housing complex, all of which are convincingly listed on Al Qaeda's curriculum vitae."
Shall we add those killed by the missle attacks on Afganistan and Sudan during the Clinton administration? How far back do you want to go?
If you're trying work out some math where the Middle-Eastern terrorists killed more innocent civilians in the USA than the USA government killed in the Middle East, I honestly don't think you'll have much luck.
As I've said before (http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=10477076&thread=12820758#t12820758), don't mistake this for any allegation that the USA's motives are as evil as the terrorists. No sir. I just find reprehensible any use of tactics that accepts mass killing of innocent bystanders. And when people try to argue that it's evil when someone else does it but okay when we do, it often looks to me like awkward contorted attempts at rationalization.
"As for the commondreams source, why no mention of the rather unrigorous method of counting the allegedly dead in Afghanistan, as described in an a.r.k thread?"
If you have better figures or what you concider a good source conflicting with the above figures, feel free to present them.